Buyer’s guide Mercedes 170V, 170D, S V, S-D: People’s Mercedes

The W 136 is considered robust and durable Mercedes-construction at all. Low power, high sheet thickness and a rigid frame defy the decades. But the spontaneous restoration of the seventies and secret kilometers millionaires soon need a cure.

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Body check

The Vorkriegsmodelle of 170 V were still partially in the so-called Gemischtbauweise produced, that is a wood framework made of ash or beech wood for Roof, spigot wall, trunk floor, or A- and B-pillars was covered with sheet metal. This design makes the substance susceptible to rot, which only reveals itself to cutting - and the costly work requires Stellmacher in the restoration. The all-steel models of the post-war period are clearly problem-free to restore.

Basically, shows the massive X-shaped oval tube frame, typical of many Mercedes Vollschwingachser the thirties and fifties when indestructible. But that does not apply to parts like Doors, hoods and fenders. Despite a sheet thickness of up to 1.5 millimeters they tend to rust. Also, the box-shaped doorsill, the Jacking and the Boot floor affected. The 170 was discovered and in the late 60s and in the 70s as a typical car in the pre-war style restored. The works do not reach long the current level perfectionist and often were based on the then still modest market value.

The potential buyer should therefore pay particular attention to riveted sheets or improvised repairs with fiberglass mats. Originality now also plays a major role. Covers, door panels, headliners and attachments such as Mirrors, headlights and tail lights must be examined closely. In barn finds it is important to note the significant restoration costs despite the seemingly simple construction.

Technical checks

The technology of the 170 V models is simple and robust, but constructed without the Mercedes Typical brilliance. Their durability is legendary. The engines (initially 38 hp for the petrol and the diesel, at low speed, respectively 3,600 3,200 tours) have leased eternal life with careful handling and regular maintenance.

bearing damage are rare but occur more frequently in diesel before - the oil pressure should not fall below 1.5 bar when the engine is warm. Important is generally that the compression of the OM, did not 636 Ölbläuen is recognizable and no unnatural rattling noises can be heard. However, is not easy when loud be nailed diesel. Whose Injection pump is a fairly expensive item in the overhaul case.

It is also important that the last in pistons and cylinders excess has not been reached for a revision. The landing gear is maintenance-intensive because of the numerous grease fitting. While this is done regularly by the central lubrication of a button the driver, often but it was shut down because of their susceptibility to interference. The transmission are smooth-running and durable, sometimes has been converted to full synchronous boxes of the post-war models.

Prices

Apart from the Cabriolet A (104,000 euros) and B (70,000 euros) and various special bodies such as flatbed, van or station wagon is the Mercedes 170 S sedan than gasoline, the most sought after model of the W 136- / W 191 series. 27,000 euros are required in good condition for it. The primitive pre-war V-models are provided with 28,000 to 30,000 euros still slightly above. a steady, significant increase in value is significant, according to Classic Data since 2000. Important for the price obtainable nowadays the quality of the restoration, a good history and high originality in detail. Low maintenance costs make the 170 even more attractive for many prewar fans.

When introducing 1936 (170 V four-door)
3,850 Reichsmarks
At the end of production 1955 (170 S-V)
8300 D-Mark

spare Parts

The spare parts situation for the W 136 shows Mercedes-typical of all equipment parts quite relaxed, which make Vorkriegsmodelle even the most problems. Because until 1955, the Evergreen was taken 170 in many varieties on the market that differ in small details. This makes it difficult nowadays warehousing at Mercedes-Benz Classic Center, which strives to deliver all modules quickly. In addition, the 170 is not such crowd favorites such as a 190 SL - hence reproductions worth little.

Bodywork, equipment and trim cause problems, but offer specialized retailers such as Werner Karasch in Gelsenkirchen and Heinrich E. Niemöller Ing. In Mannheim remedy. Wolfgang Westphal in Pattensen, Kirschinger & Son and Schulz and mix take care of the type 170. addresses and telephone numbers of these companies can be found in the advertising section MotorKlassik market.

weaknesses

  1. Front and rear mudguards
  2. Doors and hoods
  3. Wood framework (pre-war cars)
  4. Sills, B-pillar
  5. Boot floor
  6. crankshaft bearings
  7. Injection pump (Diesel)
  8. steering gear
  9. Front, central lubrication
  10. Rear axle (differential)
  11. Upholstery fabrics (originality)
  12. restoration defects
Buyer's guide Mercedes 170V, 170D, S V, S-D: People's Mercedes

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Conclusion

The W 136 is considered robust and durable Mercedes-construction at all. Low power, high sheet thickness and a rigid frame defy the decades. But the spontaneous restoration of the seventies and secret kilometers millionaires soon need a cure.